But the end of 1998, ten years later. I was invited to participate in the new transmission on television, which was conceived as a debate on the important issues - three or four people with different points of view. For samples gathered F.Burlatsky - one of the "foremen of perestroika," Gorbachev moderate Democrat leaven, Nikonov - active young protege of Yeltsin's team, and I - from the "reactionaries". When you have to talk with the ideology of our restructuring and market reforms face to face, I am seized by a feeling of something unreal, like a dream kind of hell, a reality and not be mozhet197. It turned out that my interlocutors like to talk, and while I was able to get a word they uttered such that about any sensible, academic conversation already and speech could not go. It began with the fact that the host asked: why is this supposedly reform we do not go - and won in China too, reform, and what grandeur. Burlatskii, which, of course, with Deng Xiao-ping was on friendly terms, immediately gave a comprehensive answer: "We do not go to the reform because we have the Chinese." Lead and gasped. After all, if, as they say the Democrats, no alternative to the course of reforms, and we are so fast the Chinese all become not able to, so go out, it is necessary to die? And why were so unfit Russian material?